god.

[Tinykit]

Haha GotchiGirl.

I've tried to read the Bible once, just to get an idea.

It was too hard because all the verse numbers and stuff.

xP I should try the children's Bible.

 

[bryant101]

What? Are you saying that Christians are liars or non-believers?I'm not lying, This is just what I believe.

I didn't quite catch what you meant but, if you think that non-believers are lying, that's what I say to you.

Haha.

*removed*

 

[bryant101]

I think what Bryant means was that the bible said that the earth will become worse in years to come and all that stuff, and maybe he thought that you were trying to say that it wasn't true or something that is the complete opposite. However, I'm not quite sure if the bible says that, because the only bible I've ever read was the children's bible, which was awesome.

yeah that is what im talking about and when it gets badder and badder god will come sooner and sooner.

 

[tamaMamita]

but the worlds bad enough.

 

[Tinykit]

Exactly, but religion doesn't make it ANY better.

I think I might leave this topic, since there might be a war any second.

Enjoy my opinions, PM me for more information =]

@ Bryant101, I didn't know that's what you meant, and I didn't know what you said in that post you quoted. Sorry for any misunderstandings.

 

[Sparks.]

My Belife is, Yes I do belive in God and Jesus.

I am Christian. & people who dont, thats Your Choice, but one day Your day will Come.

My friends dont belive, exepet 2 people. One goes to the Same Church, one is Just Different.

anyway back to God,

Yeah, I dont belive in the "Big Bang" *Stares* I mean, HELLO?! makes no Scence LOL!

No Offence though. This world had to be Created in Some way?

Besides The big bang is... a Myth to me,

God, is the Truth to me.

:] People who belive, will Recive his Love and Live in a Happy life when they Die woot!

lol

and People who dont, well... whoopsy. lol

 

[Surfer_girl]

I believe there was a Big bang. Because I have no religion but I do believe in Heaven. So if you are nice, no matter what religion, you shall go to Heaven.

I do not believe in the Devil's lair, *coughs*Hell*coughs* But I do believe in Heaven because, were else are you gonna go when you die?

~SG~

 

[TamaMum]

..I am Christian. & people who dont, thats Your Choice, but one day Your day will Come.......

People who belive, will Recive his Love and Live in a Happy life when they Die woot!

lol

and People who dont, well... whoopsy. lol

.... people who don't believe... their day will come... ?

I'm sorry, but a comment made in this sort of style shows a level of religious intolerance that could well make a lot of Christians cringe with dismay.

This is the Seriously (Non) TamaTalk forum - check the special rules for this section carefully.

Please phrase your opinions in a more polite manner and remember that anything you (or any other members) post should show respect for others' opinions, even if they differ from your own.

 

[tamaMamita]

it doesn't make me cringe, I'm ready anyday.

 

[Mamitchi465]

.... people who don't believe... their day will come... ?
I'm sorry, but a comment made in this sort of style shows a level of religious intolerance that could well make a lot of Christians cringe with dismay.

This is the Seriously (Non) TamaTalk forum - check the special rules for this section carefully.

Please phrase your opinions in a more polite manner and remember that anything you (or any other members) post should show respect for others' opinions, even if they differ from your own.

There day will come ^_^ Life is a test Chose to believe or not believe. All of our judgement days will come one day.....Its just that simple Once again I'm sorry if any of this info offended you in any way...I'd hate to offend anyoneon here!

~Mamitchi465

 

[Kiwitchi_Fan]

There day will come  :furawatchi: Life is a test Chose to believe or not believe. All of our judgement days will come one day.....Its just that simple Once again I'm sorry if any of this info offended you in any way...I'd hate to offend anyoneon here!
            ~Mamitchi465

Well...even if this is what you strongly believe, I'm sure nobody likes to hear that they are going to hell one day because they don't believe. Also, I don't like it when people talk to people who have a different religion or no religion like they are so much smarter and know everything. (e.g., "Oh, you can believe what you believe, but one day you will see.... ") It's like a parent telling an ignorant child that they did something wrong. O__O And I just don't think people should force their beliefs on each other, tell them they're wrong, or have that fake sweet attitude saying "Ok, but one day you will go to hell." I just wish people could respect each other's religions. >.<

Personally, I believe in God and Jesus, but not everything in the Bible. I believe that there is no hell and everyone goes to heaven, but some choose not to and live another life on Earth. The people who choose to live another life are truly horrid people who don't want love or friendship or anything. They don't want to be with their loved ones, because they have no loved ones. They don't choose to be happy, they choose to live another bad life, where, once again, they will never find love or happiness ANYWHERE. Atheists or people of a different religion than you are not horrid people. I beleive pretty much everyone goes to a happy place when they die ^____^ Certainly everyone here on TT does. That's my opinion. You can disagree, as long as you do it respectfully. I'm not going to change my opinion no matter what any of you say.

 

[tamaw/pants]

Just a question KF- then why did Jesus have to die?

 

[Kiwitchi_Fan]

Just a question KF- then why did Jesus have to die?

Okay, right away I want to say that I do NOT know very much about Christianity, and I admit that. I know more about the other stuff I believe in, so I immediately apologize if in any way this post is confusing, offensive, or stupid. =]

I think Jesus had to die for our sins, yes, but I want to leave hell out of this whole post. Because I'm not talking about hell here. I'm trying to talk about how you can still be a good person who deserves heaven even if you don't believe in God. It's just logical. I know people have explained this to me before when I have asked this question in other religious topics on TT, but I STILL don't understand: If God is so loving, so perfect, and He doesn't sin, then why is there hell? Certainly sending someone to a burning place of torture because they don't believe in you is sinning. How can God be perfect and all-loving if he has to send people to hell? It just doesn't make sense to me, and I'm sorry if that seems ignorant. But hell is such a horrible punishment. Honestly....I can't imagine ANYONE who deserves that, let alone someone who, although they do not believe in God and Jesus, is a good, honest, kind, loving person. Like I said before, in my opinion, the people who are truly evil CHOOSE not to be loved, they aren't "banished to hell." Even though they know their last life was a disaster, and God tries to tell them to go to heaven, they sometimes refuse and go back to Earth to start a new life that was just as horrible as the last. It's basically their choice, and I don't think it is so much a matter of believing in God as knowing love. I do believe God is perfect, loving, forgiving, and never sins. That is why I do not believe in hell. Going back to "choices" - some people might say that choosing to believe in God is also a choice that affects what happens when you die. See, I don't think that AT ALL. I'm sure there are some truly evil people out there who believed in God, but when it was thier time to die, they realized they didn't even know what love was...and didn't want to be with God. I can EASILY see how some people don't believe in God. Some people are naturally skeptical and don't find it convincing. I don't think that's a sin, even. It's a personal choice, and everyone here who was brave enough to admit they had a different religion in a public place, I'm very proud of you. Nobody likes having people shove religion down thier throat. Next time anyone here is trying to tell someone that they are wrong....think about yourself. Think about something you absolutely DO NOT believe in. Take me, for example. I don't believe in Santa Claus. What if a bunch of people who weren't, say, four years old, started telling you you were evil and awful and horrible and making the wrong decision and trying to make you change your mind because you don't believe in Santa Claus? Wouldn't that be annoying? Wouldn't you hate that? I just hate, hate, hate how some religions think they are better than others. I'm not just talking about Christianity, I'm talking about pretty much every religion. Saying "I'm right and you're wrong" doesn't get us anywhere. It just makes others angry or hurt.

One last thing: I never have really understood the whole "Jesus dying on the cross" thing. I mean, I do believe in Jesus and that he died for us, but I don't really get the whole thing about sins, I just don't understand it. If someone could try to explain it to me, I would be very appreciative. ^^

Whew! Sorry for the huuuge post - and sorry if it doesn't make sense or is kind of stupid. tamaw/pants is the religion expert here, not me.

 

[Cinderpelt]

Well...even if this is what you strongly believe, I'm sure nobody likes to hear that they are going to hell one day because they don't believe. Also, I don't like it when people talk to people who have a different religion or no religion like they are so much smarter and know everything. (e.g., "Oh, you can believe what you believe, but one day you will see.... ") It's like a parent telling an ignorant child that they did something wrong. O__O And I just don't think people should force their beliefs on each other, tell them they're wrong, or have that fake sweet attitude saying "Ok, but one day you will go to hell." I just wish people could respect each other's religions. >.<
Personally, I believe in God and Jesus, but not everything in the Bible. I believe that there is no hell and everyone goes to heaven, but some choose not to and live another life on Earth. The people who choose to live another life are truly horrid people who don't want love or friendship or anything. They don't want to be with their loved ones, because they have no loved ones. They don't choose to be happy, they choose to live another bad life, where, once again, they will never find love or happiness ANYWHERE. Atheists or people of a different religion than you are not horrid people. I beleive pretty much everyone goes to a happy place when they die ^____^ Certainly everyone here on TT does. That's my opinion. You can disagree, as long as you do it respectfully. I'm not going to change my opinion no matter what any of you say.

I don't believe that, but what would be so wrong with coming to have another life if you had the option? If I believed in my heart that were true, I might even consider that option.

Yes- I believe in God. My savior, my hero = Jesus Christ.

 

[tamaw/pants]

Not an expert, lol! xD

My answer- it's not really just 'banishment to hell because you're bad', it's because they denied God. God didn't want robots so he let us choose- Him or... not. It's the kind of thing like teachers don't give a grade, you earn it. You decide to choose or not to choose [choosing someone else besides God is also the same for not choosing Him, to clarify] and you go depending on that choice.

Jesus took all our sins on him so if we accept him, he covers our sins and we can be with God- heaven. Hell is eternal seperation fromg God which is the worst part of hell, not just the fires and tourture of hell. Heaven is always being with God and you get to decide.

I don't call what you said stupid, no way. ;] But I'm curious, where did you get this idea? Did just think it or did you get some more info, put it together, etc. ?

 

[Kiwitchi_Fan]

I don't believe that, but what would be so wrong with coming to have another life if you had the option? If I believed in my heart that were true, I might even consider that option.
Yes- I believe in God. My savior, my hero = Jesus Christ. 

Jeez, I just realized something. I didn't even explain in my stupid post why it would be be bad to have another life. XD Haha, stupid me. I am sooo tired tonight. x___x Okay, here goes...:

The people who have that happen to them aren't ordinary, good people like you and me. They are....evil people who aren't even like human. They hate everyone and everything. They have no heart, no conscience, no anything. They have never felt love, or true happiness, or even guilt. Just a selfish happiness. Yet for their own selfish reasons, they believe in God. Not because they want Him to love them, but because they want to live somewhere perfect when they die. But they find out they don't want it. They want another, selfish, horrible life. Not a good life, not a fun life. You said, "If I believed in my heart that was true, I might even consider that option." That's understandable, lol. Another ordinary, fun life wiuld be great. These people don't have fun lives. And they don't have hearts or any little bit of good in them at all, so they couldn't "feel it in their heart." They don't think about things like that. Also - I forgot to mention, I beleive in living again. Like, a normal life. If you choose to go to heaven, (this is my belief) after relaxing and having the time of your life in that perfect place, you want to go back to the imperfect world of Earth to learn about life. We set our goals before we come here, yet when we are born, we don't remember them. We follow our hearts and nearly always end up accomplishing them at the end, then we go back to our true Home. Again, this is my opinion. =P Just an opnion.

EDIT: Just read what you said, TW/P. For now I will just say that I did research this when I was questioning what exactly I beleived in. I'll write more tomorrow becuase I have to get off the computer now XP

 

[~*.:Elmo:.*~]

There is no proof that god doesn't exsist, but there is no proof that he doesn't either. People say that the proof that he does exist is the visions and sightings of mary, but why does he just show those particular people. I'm just saying that if you have a strong opion prepare to defend yourself, because no matter what you think there will always be people to put you down and think the opisite of you.

 

[Mamitchi465]

Well...even if this is what you strongly believe, I'm sure nobody likes to hear that they are going to hell one day because they don't believe. Also, I don't like it when people talk to people who have a different religion or no religion like they are so much smarter and know everything. (e.g., "Oh, you can believe what you believe, but one day you will see.... ") It's like a parent telling an ignorant child that they did something wrong. O__O And I just don't think people should force their beliefs on each other, tell them they're wrong, or have that fake sweet attitude saying "Ok, but one day you will go to hell." I just wish people could respect each other's religions. >.<
Personally, I believe in God and Jesus, but not everything in the Bible. I believe that there is no hell and everyone goes to heaven, but some choose not to and live another life on Earth. The people who choose to live another life are truly horrid people who don't want love or friendship or anything. They don't want to be with their loved ones, because they have no loved ones. They don't choose to be happy, they choose to live another bad life, where, once again, they will never find love or happiness ANYWHERE. Atheists or people of a different religion than you are not horrid people. I beleive pretty much everyone goes to a happy place when they die ^____^ Certainly everyone here on TT does. That's my opinion. You can disagree, as long as you do it respectfully. I'm not going to change my opinion no matter what any of you say.

I agree with tamaw/pants. God just doesnt say "okay your bad go to hell" ??? God loves you no matter what but like she said you have denied him and wished no to believe in the savior. I also did not say that in my last post =)

 

Mamitchi465

 

[angicy]

Yes I do, very much so.
With that mentality, by the time you see God, it'll be too late. *shrugs*

I agree

 

[PremoChick]

Eh... I'm neutral about this God thing. I'm going towards believing that evolution and the big bang is true. I mean, which sounds more realistic... the big bang theory, in which the planet was created in explosions, or some old guy creating this world in 7 days? The day I see god and jesus with my own eyes is the day I'll believe with all my heart. Until then I'm completely neutral.

-PremoChick

P.S. There is some proof of Evolution, where the animals evolved into the animals we see and know today. But is there proof of god, jesus, hell, and heaven? Nope. All there is is a really old book with stories in it called the Bible and that is NOT proof because those are just stories.