god.

[TenmaYuuki]

Yes, I agree. I go with TM's point of view.

 

[tamaMamita]

TamaMum you are correct that Christian views as myself believe that God is the only one to judge peoples hearts. It is said that children under the age of 7 that die go to heaven automatically. Anyone above this age is old enough to make your own choices. Christians are NOT judging the non-christians we are simply telling non-believers what it is to be a Christian. If you guys were Christians and go to my church, you'd do the same. I don't recall myself callin anybody an idiot for not accepting Jesus, because that is just going to make the matters worse. I believe that if you lead a positive life but dont have Jesus you go to hell. I believe that if you are rude but know Jesus as your Savior you go to heaven. Its actually not a matter of believeing, because anyone can believe something, its a matter of knowing Him. Christians are called to not be rude and mean, because what you say overflows from your heart. I'm trying to be your friend, but some people may take this a whole different way. God Bless <3 and I hoped I helped you TamaMum

 

[tamaMamita]

sorry if I double posted but, everyone does deserve hell, because everyones a sinner. No one is perfect, right? That is why Jesus died on the cross for us, to save us. Jesus is the standard of being perfect. This is what I believe and what other Christian faiths believe. I

 

[Starman.exe]

sorry if I double posted but, everyone does deserve hell, because everyones a sinner. No one is perfect, right? That is why Jesus died on the cross for us, to save us. Jesus is the standard of being perfect. This is what I believe and what other Christian faiths believe. I

Sorry to burst you bubble.

Not everyone "deserves hell".

Npt everyone belives heaven or hell. That sounds a bit extreame also. So if a person don't belive in god, they are casted into hell? WHat about Buddist people? What about people who belive in multi gods? What about hindus?

I do NOT belive in heaven and hell. I belive in reincarnation. Have any objections? Why must most christians, not nit picking here outcast anyone who don't follow their belifes, wishes or what not? Is it discrimination or is it being an extreamist?

So if a child don't belive in god, should he be told that he is gonna go to hell?

So it's hypocritical to act like one side is right, while the other party is wrong?

 

[tamaw/pants]

Glad you asked. :]

No one's perfect. Our salvation rests on a choice- Jesus or no Jesus. If you don't have the ability to really make that choice [such as a baby, serverly mentaly handicapped person, etc.] then He's not going to send you to hell for something you aren't capable of doing. There's no magic age because each of us is different but He's a perfect judge. But if you are capable of understanding and choosing and you decide against it, then that's where you go to hell.

The free will is so we aren't robots. If you had a friend and they only loved you because they were commanded to, is that real love? Not really. So we all have to choose to know Him, or to choose not to.

I can't judge you or anyone else and know that you are this or that- it's not my job. But if you aren't and because we believe you are going to hell, then of course I'm going to try to tell you. If you blow me off, get mad, don't want to hear it, etc. I can't do anymore but pray for you and maybe discuss it later. 'Converting' people isn't my deal. I can only tell others and then they decide if they accept it or not.

No one has a moral life when put up next to perfection. This religion, unlike many others, is not based on works where we never know if we are getting into heaven or not. Like I said, even one stolen cookie in an otherwise perfect life tarnishes your soul. But even that's impossible because we all screw up sometimes. If a Christian acts in a bad way we may be inclined to question if he or she really is a true Christian. We are still human, though. It's not like we will never sin again because of it.

What about the others? It's not just any god, it's God-Jesus. Although in one language it's this and another is that the charactoristics are the same. The god of Islam is not the god of the Christians.

Hope that made sence. xP

 

[Tinykit]

Well, at least now we can understand eachother's views differently.

I don't know everything about my religion, since I'm still only a kid, I'll learn more and understand more as I get older. I hope to be reincarnated. It's something I find amazing.

I don't think everyone deserves hell, I think rapists and murderers deserve it.

Everyone does bad things in their life but things like swearing can be forgiven, but things like killing people and rape can't. They're just to serious.

I really don't like the idea of everyone is so bad that they deserve to go to hell.

Every person is good, some just choose to be bad or do bad things.

People may not agree but whatever. It's just what I think.

 

[Starman.exe]

Like I said and countless times. It puts me in a mad fury when someone goes, "U R GOIN TO HELL!"

No offense of anything. I have had too much harassment from Christians as is and I am pretty much getting fed up from them, hounding me, telling me I should belive or I should be casted to hell for not accepting their faith.

If I belive in reincarnation, that's my buisness. Not yours.

 

[Hallowed]

If you wish to spout about some religion, at least carry the expectancy that people may ignore you or be OFFENDED by your beliefs. That's the reason NO ONE throws around their beliefs, because it is far too easy to offend someone else and wind up in a heap of trouble. If you wish to spout your beliefs, do so at your own discretion. There is a reason religion is one of the three things you NEVER talk about in public...

 

[Starman.exe]

If you wish to spout about some religion, at least carry the expectancy that people may ignore you or be OFFENDED by your beliefs. That's the reason NO ONE throws around their beliefs, because it is far too easy to offend someone else and wind up in a heap of trouble. If you wish to spout your beliefs, do so at your own discretion. There is a reason religion is one of the three things you NEVER talk about in public...

I see where you come off at a point.

Religion shoud be discussed privatly. Not on a public forum.

So what if someone don't belive.

It's their choice. Their buisness.

 

[Hallowed]

I see where you come off at a point.
Religion shoud be discussed privatly. Not on a public forum.

So what if someone don't belive.

It's their choice. Their buisness.

Thus why you also never speak of finances and politics. Also grounds for a flogging if you say the wrong thing.

 

[tamaMamita]

Tinykit I'd like to learn more about Buddism, it sounds nice!!!

 

[Tinykit]

Haha, thanks.

I don't know. People are different. Respecting others is something everyone should do and it's what I do, or at least try to.

It's hard to explain... Maybe we do need to keep some details and perspectives to ourselves or it could start something bad.

Religion is VERY complex in many situations like now, I just hope we can all understand and realise that everyone is different, sinner or not.

After all, we are only human.

 

[tamaMamita]

yeah, were all equal

 

[Tinykit]

yeah, were all equal

Exactly.

It's not how many people love you, your looks or anything else that matters.

It's you as a whole and we were all made to be seen as that. We were all made to see everything, inside and outside.

It doesn't have much to do with God but it does have something to do with how we treat people and how we respect them.

I think I went a little off topic there. Oopsies. Haha.

 

[tamaMamita]

u have good philosophies!!!

 

[Anime girl]

[SIZE=21pt]I BELIEVE IN GOD, AND ALWAYS WILL[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14pt]Oh boy...Another one of these topics where there is no winner or loser. :/[/SIZE]

 

But anyway~ Yes I believe in God. Even though at times it can be hard when friends and the media try to tell you that your faith is wrong. But I want to keep on believing...No matter what. Because with God...I never feel lonely, I always have someone to talk to, someone to express my feelings too!

 

God just makes everything better for me.

 

And besides! Why not believe in God? Weather God is real or not, it never hurts to have someone to trust in. ^_^ "

 

[.:Puma:.]

Not really. Ever since I was little and I did RE at school I didn't really believe.

I have full respect for those who do though.

-Puma

 

[GotchiGirl96]

I BELIEVE IN GOD, AND ALWAYS WILL
Oh boy...Another one of these topics where there is no winner or loser. :/

But anyway~ Yes I believe in God. Even though at times it can be hard when friends and the media try to tell you that your faith is wrong. But I want to keep on believing...No matter what. Because with God...I never feel lonely, I always have someone to talk to, someone to express my feelings too!

God just makes everything better for me.

And besides! Why not believe in God? Weather God is real or not, it never hurts to have someone to trust in. ^_^ "

Well, you see, with all the new science discoveries they all try to tell you that God didn't create the earth, this is what happened and blah blah blah. That can be really confusing and stuff.

But that's where faith comes in. If you really have faith, you can believe that the things that seem most impossible, can actually be true.

 

[Tinykit]

Yeah, the only downside to my religion, I don't know if anyone listens to me when I'm crying.

If I need help with things, I can't talk to anyone.

If I just need to talk, no one is there.

That's why music keeps my alive, because where words fail, music speaks...

But, People so try to prove people's faith wrong but if you have faith, they can't, in any way, prove what you believe wrong.

 

[tamaMamita]

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