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It shouldn't be offending. If it was, well sorry then.
Like I said, I don't belive in god, either. People should respect each other's belives, instead of going after each other. There are far worse things that can happen with one's belifes.
Thanks for apologizing. I shouldn't have been offended... After all, it's your own opinion.

 
Thanks for apologizing. I shouldn't have been offended... After all, it's your own opinion.
Humble opinions should be harmful. I have seen alot worse things when people have some belifes.

I don't like it when people tell me that I am gonna die unhappy if I don't belive in god and Jesus. You can be happy with our without beliving.

 
just to say, one of the ten commandments say  that "You Shall Have no Gods Before God"
for christians, catholics, and jews, you CAN believe in other gods, but if you believe in God, then he should be the God above the other gods. just sayin.

P.S.: i believe, and i respect other peoples choices
I think you might have that a little wrong - hope you don't mind me suggesting :)

If one of the ten commandments says "You Shall Have No Gods Before God" I think it means that you should worship / believe in no other God.

It doesn't mean that you can believe in other Gods as long as they are not more important than God.

Catholics ARE Christians (Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity, just like Baptists or Evangelists or Lutherians, for example - they are all Christians).

Christians, Jews and Muslims are monotheistic.

That means they do not believe in more than one God.

They all believe that they should not worship more than one God.

 
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sorry, i didn't really look into tons of details (were talking about monotheism, polytheism in Social Studies)

Thanks for pointing that out

 
I say that all catholics are christians but not all christians are catholics.
It's not just you who says that.

It is a generally accepted fact.

Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity. Denomination means that it is a kind of sub group of the religion Christianity.

 
No religion is right or true.  Man created religion.  Be it worshipping one god or multi gods.  I do not belive in any god or gods.
People are gonna call the Bible a Book of fables, because it's what they choose.  How can a man live inside a whale?  Talking snakes that tempt people with apples?  If I met a talking snake, I think I was trippin'.

People do not like ot be told in what to belive in or forced to belive.
1:that wasn't really what i was talking about....not to offend

2:If they don't belive in the Bible doesn't mean they can call it 'A book of Fables' it's offending to some

people, I'm not saying you can't believe in what they want to but just try not toputthings in ways that can offend people

Edit: I saw your apoligie but some opinions can be offending to some people

 
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My view is a little weird on god. I believe in him, but I am not very fond of him, he really seems quite conceited, but he did all this awesome stuff for us so that's hard to admit... Or maybe that's the only way I can believe in him... It makes him seem more like a real leader with a personality and feelings. :)

 
1:that wasn't really what i was talking about....not to offend2:If they don't belive in the Bible doesn't mean they can call it 'A book of Fables' it's offending to some

people, I'm not saying you can't believe in what they want to but just try not toputthings in ways that can offend people

Edit: I saw your apoligie but some opinions can be offending to some people
Both points from both of you have been made on this miscommunication and it's basically wrapped up from the apology.. We don't want things derailed here so if you can you please move on, that would be great! Thanks.

 
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I used to.

Then I turned six.

Now I believe in science.

The end.

Who liked my story?

 
I never have and never will.In my eyes, religion is just something to make you feel better about life.

I respect people who are religious, so long as it's not shoved down my throat.
I never have either, and I agree. Religion makes you feel loved and cared for, which I believe is an extremely relevant primal want that most everyone has (most as in, 99 out of 100, no matter how "I don't need anyone!" that they may be).

In my opinion, religion is just a bit of happy in the increasingly unhappy world. Not to mention science defies the vast majority of most religions...

Oh, and if people attempt to convert me (in real life) constantly for days, they will get punched--not an empty threat, either. I'm dead serious.

 
To put it simply in a way so I can't hurt other's feelings,

No, I do not.

-sorry, accidental bump.

 
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Yes, I do aswell. If there was no God and Jesus, then who could have made such good stories with really good morals to them?

 
^^

I know I will offend with my next statement so please excuse me.

But once in a bible study which mum made me attend [against my will might I add] and there was so many random things. I laughed so much at some of the things.

This made me believe the bible was wriiten by a group of drunk [wo]men [People].

 
That's interesting and reassuring.
Because I'm not a Christian and you agree with me :)
Yes, I do agree with all that you were saying about

a ) The question "Who created God?" being old

b ) The fact that Christians don't need to know if they have true faith

This is the perspective I am coming from, even if we do not have the same opinions from a religious point of view. (I am Christian, you are not..)

Adding to what tamaw/pants has said, all these questions about how it's not possible for Jonah to have lived inside a whale, snakes tempting people with apples, and the Earth being created by some supreme being, we have only been made with minds of human comprehension. We have no way of understanding the miracles that our God and Creator has done, which is where faith comes in. Believing without demanding proof. Having trust in Him without seeing.

Because we cannot see God, but we can see his effects. All the sin and crime in the world is us. All the goodness of life is from Him.

These are my opinions and beliefs, but I respect all others because this is a free world. Whatever you believe, whichever path you choose to take, will have its consequences - good or bad. But it's up to the individual to decide what they believe, and I happily share my faith and ideas with everyone here, and will respect yours and listen with interest to what others have to say.

~bratztroxg

EDIT: Typo, sorry! x3

 
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How exactly can religion explain science? Please tell me because you have stated this more than once but never really explained how religion can explain science...there i was thinking that scientific experiments defined scientific knowledge and not fairy-tales written in old books.

I believe you when you say that there are many religious scientists, I agreed with you on this in previous posts. Although it seems very strange to me how scientists can allow themselves to believe in things without any proof.

It seems like you are a person who appreciates science, well let me tell you that there is a big probability that you will soon grow out of your religious beliefs. It happened to me. I was born and raised in a christian society, most of my family members and friends are christians but I still managed to realize what really matters in life. You said that you won't try to define my beliefs and it seems that most Americans don't really understand what atheists believe in, I've heard people saying in posts that atheists don't believe in anything or that they are devil-worshipers, so let me list some of the things that i believe in: love, truth, beauty, family, marriage, friendship, peace, justice, democracy, free-speech, happiness, science, knowledge, freedom; i believe that humans are able to do good out of the goodness of their own heart...i beleive in all these things, i simply refuse to believe in supernatural magics...That's practically a direct quote from Richard Dawkins, I know, but I've believed in these things before I even knew about Richard Dawkins.

You say that you respect homosexuals but still manage to admit that their very existence is a sin, what kind of respect is that? And all the 'witches' burned at the stake died because of religion, that's why I said that sometimes religion overshadows the values of love. Also, might I add that witches DON'T EXIST!! Sure there are people who think that they are witches, but there are also people who believe that they are Elvis...you see where I'm getting at?

Good thing the bible never said anything against Elvis. :)
I'm sorry, but I beg to differ with a lot of the points you have stated.

Firstly, you stated, "It seems like you are a person who appreciates science, well let me tell you that there is a big probability that you will soon grow out of your religious beliefs. It happened to me." I'll tell you one more time - please don't tell me what my faith/religion is now, or what it will be in the future. It will only offend me, and you are working on the basis here that I will forget my faith, religion, my God and Creator whom I love and worship, and the sole basis of my life, just because I appreciate Science. No way. There are some excellent Christian Scientists out there who have not abandoned their beliefs just because they appreciate Science.

You also asked, "How exactly can religion explain Science?" Well, I will tell you my beliefs, and I would appreciate if you did not try to deny them or prove them wrong, because we are dealing with my faith and beliefs here, and what you say will not change how I feel. While neither directly 'explain each other', a lot of what the Bible says is backed up by Science. For example, the Big Bang. The Earth being created. I believe that the Bible, in Genesis 1, is not being entirely literal. More metaphorical. Sudden light appearing from nowhere as the earth is formed..seems to link in with the whole idea of the Big Bang.

After all, let's think about it. The writer of Genesis clearly gained all his knowledge about the creation of the Earth from God if he was writing it into the Bible. Would God really have gone into complicated scientifical procedures?? Nope. 2000 years ago, they didn't know all that much about Science, and it wouldn't have made any sense to anybody. I hope I have made my beliefs clear on this point.

You said, "It seems very strange to me how scientists can allow themselves to believe in things without proof." Well, this is a question of faith, and has been discussed further in other posts. It may seem strange to you, but it is very common and seems very normal to me. As I have stated before, there are many excellent Christian Scientists out there who have helped us find out more about the wonderful world God has created for us, and I truly respect them for that. Science is fact, and cannot be denied. People's beliefs are also their reality, despite the fact that they may be different from others' faith. It all fits together.

Another thing you said was, "You say that you respect homosexuals but still manage to admit that their very existence is a sin, what kind of respect is that?". Let me first make it clear that the issue of homosexuality is for another topic, and we won't go too deep into that, but I did not by any means say that the very existence of homosexuals is a sin. If I was treating homosexuals as any more tainted or sinful than myself, or indeed anyone else, that would be ignorance. There are many things which I do wrong, but I still expect to be treated with respect. In return, this is how I treat others - including homosexuals. I do not want all homosexuals to be banished from this Earth at all. That's like shunning and hating others for believing different things than I do, and you have misunderstood me there.

Before I finish, I'd like to point out one last thing. Please do not refer to the Bible as 'lots of fairy-tales written in an old book.' This is extremely offensive to Christians/Jews/Catholics/anyone else who lives by the Bible. I respect the fact that you are an Atheist. Although I do not agree with you, I respect you, and would never disrespect you in such a way. I would appreciate the same respectful treatment and tolerance. Thank you.

~bratztroxg

 
I do.Its hard not to because hes our creator.i mean yeah,you came from you mom.But who made the earth.With out God,you wouldn't be alive.So your not thinking of your creator.Its just hard for me not to.I don't know why you wouldn't.But when you die,if you go up or down.if you go up,you will belive.So we just wait until then.

 
I don't believe in god. I suppose it's just because of my logic, and the fact that I wasn't raised in a religious family.

I can say that maybe I used to when I was younger because everybody else did, so I figured it must really be true, but now that I'm older and really look at everything.. No, I don't.

 
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