Tesco

[super mametchi]

:kuribotchi: :mimitchi: :kusatchi: Well one day we went to shop online at tesco and instead of a normal thing we saw a video of what tesco do to turtles they said it as if it was normal but i was in tears the poor turtle had its head..... im not going into anymore details its so horrible im not doing a link but if you are really brave then go on google vids then say tesco turtles and you will be sick and ever since we have never gone tesco (after you see this youll be begging not to go) trust me i cryed for them!

 

[!Stupid!]

Sad.

I think thats mean they can take them home and kill them in anyway wanted!

 

-Stupid

 

[TamaMum]

I can understand that you don't agree with killing and eating turtles because it is not part of your culture.

But it IS in China - and that is where Tesco has bought a national food store and is operating this policy.

Are they slaughtering them for consumption in a humane way?

Agreed, no. But that is based on my own judgement of what is humane - clearly not the same as the food standards and cultural norm in China.

I don't agree with it, but it is the way things are done in China - for the Chinese market.

Lots of different foods are eaten in other parts of the world that I would hesitate to eat... guinea pigs in South America (yes, really), horse meat in France... the list is endless.

I would not boycott a local Tesco supermarket in London because they are following normal food procedures in another country.

If they start selling Turtle meat in my local Tesco I'll let you know

 

[ta9394]

i have no idea what "tesco" is. Sorry!

 

[tamtamkitty07]

I agree with Tama Mum, Because different places in the world have different cultures and stuff.

Our culture eats cows, and maybe another considers cows as pets/sacred, just like we keep cats and dogs as pets and other countries and cultures may eat them.

Sure, we may think the whole world should be just like how we have it, but unfortunately it's not.

 

[Misery]

I can understand that you don't agree with killing and eating turtles because it is not part of your culture.
But it IS in China - and that is where Tesco has bought a national food store and is operating this policy.

Are they slaughtering them for consumption in a humane way?

Agreed, no. But that is based on my own judgement of what is humane - clearly not the same as the food standards and cultural norm in China.

I don't agree with it, but it is the way things are done in China - for the Chinese market.

Lots of different foods are eaten in other parts of the world that I would hesitate to eat... guinea pigs in South America (yes, really), horse meat in France... the list is endless.

I would not boycott a local Tesco supermarket in London because they are following normal food procedures in another country.

If they start selling Turtle meat in my local Tesco I'll let you know ^_^

Agreed.

 

[super mametchi]

its not the fact they eat turtle thats okay with me (really)

but the fact is the way they kill them its just inhumane i really didnt want to do this but look here really plz dont if you dont want to ive warned you heres a few videos plz dont click if you get sick easly or are a lover of turtles look heres wat they do hang the turtle upsidedown hang its tail on a hook so i comes out chop its head off and its still gaping in a water bowl! then they sell the shell and the body meat really if they wanted turtle meat couldnt they kill the turtle so it felt no pain that wouyld be good (p.s. im not veggie) or so i heard im to scared to look on the vid my freinds told me this!

 

[TigerLily013]

its not the fact they eat turtle thats okay with me (really)but the fact is the way they kill them its just inhumane i really didnt want to do this but look here really plz dont if you dont want to ive warned you heres a few videos plz dont click if you  get sick easly or are a lover of turtles look heres wat they do hang the turtle upsidedown hang its tail on a hook so i comes out chop its head off and its still gaping in a water bowl! then they sell the shell and the body meat really if they wanted turtle meat couldnt they kill the turtle so it felt no pain that wouyld be good (p.s. im not veggie) or so i heard im to scared to look on the vid my freinds told me this!

Yes it's horrible to our culture, but that's how they do things. And in different cultures sometimes killing to get a meal is sacred and is done a certain way for many generations...that or they pick a style of death that is as humane as it can get. I'm sure how cows and pigs get slaughtered isn't that great either. I understand your concern but some cultures are just like that. Not much you can do.

Also it's hard to understand your posts. I had to read your posts 2-4 times before getting what you're talking about. Remember: punctuation and grammar are your friends

 

[super mametchi]

look this is simple if i had a painless death i would like that (but not now of course)!

but if i had my head chopped then my skin (the turtles shell) ripped off and my head left still gaping in a bowl while ur body is getting hanged and your feeling pain beyond pain??

 

[super mametchi]

im not vegetarian as you should know from my other topic but i think no animal should suffer great pain because its not right even if a spider was suffering i would help it even if i am scared but if things die peacfully id be happy!

 

[TigerLily013]

im not vegetarian as you should know from my other topic but i think no animal should suffer great pain because its not right even if a spider was suffering i would help it even if i am scared but if things die peacfully id be happy!

First off every double post one makes, its one more post not needed.

And second. If you're beheaded...you're dead. The turtle does not feel pain after that point. That's as humane as you're gonna get. Anything further will not be making the turtle suffer. Now please settle down and think logically for a second about what I just said.

They obviously value the turtle. Sounds like they use it's entire body to sustain themselves and their culture. A lot of different cultures do this to celebrate the turtle's life and how it will help their own.

 

[super mametchi]

look at the video if you dont understand me!

anyway cannibalism is a culture do you agree with that???

if yes you are really weird!

 

[super mametchi]

In tesco stores in china the turtles are in essence chopped up alive with a machette-like tool.Turtles remain conscious throughout the whole procedure alsoTesco's assurances of humane treatment and slaughter are absolute rubbish. When handled, a hard-shelled turtle retracts its head, making instantaneous destruction of the brain impossible. Numerous attempts have been made to develop humane commercial slaughter methods for small/medium sized turtles, and all have failed. None are approved by any government agency or animal welfare organisation anywhere in the world. The World Society for the Protection of Animals concluded that humane slaughter of turtles for food was impractical and impossible. This view has been endorsed by leading veterinary surgeons. Softshell turtles are killed by "de-carapacing" with a sharp knife. This is an agonising procedure in which the living internal organs are exposed and removed. The turtle remains fully conscious throughout and dies - many minutes later - as a result of blood loss. The suffering caused in the process is almost unimaginable.

The process has been described in detail by those actually involved in the trade:

"First we try to get it to stick its head out, and then when it does, we chop it off right there and then. But if we can't, we'll break the shell and then take his head off, which usually takes a minute and a half." Schulke said a turtle's head can live for an hour after being severed, exacerbating the cruelty when the head isn't killed directly with a brain pith. It's grisly, but experts like the University of California-Davis's Joy Mench say there's no better way. (1)

 

[super mametchi]

here is a more graphic picture for those that dare click here to see the truth about tesco!

 

[super mametchi]

What you can do

Write a letter NOW to Tesco and tell them what you think about them selling live turtles and frogs in China.

Buy elsewhere. We recommend the Co-Op as a much more ethical alternative. They have genuine ethical standards and enforce them.

Tell everyone you know about Tesco's involvement in this shocking trade. Encourage them to shop elsewhere.

Do not buy any products or services from Tesco until they have ceased all involvement with the live turtle and frog trade.

Protest at your local Tesco store. Tell them why you will not shop there in future.

READ GUARDIAN UK NEWS REPORT ON TESCO IN CHINA

(contains information on live frog and turtle sales, plus TESCO's business strategies in China)

 

[super mametchi]

Turtles aren't the healthiest of populations, and neither are whales.

As with any organisation, if the supplier says they are farmed in good conditions, do you think Tesco's really cares?

Remember the disregard for the public in the endeavour for own gain is immense. Our own government and "weapons of mass destruction" is a classic example, all too quickly forgotten.

If something is cultural, it is not always right (wars are cultural for example).

We may be wrong on the Turtle issue, I don't know. I do know we have to make a judgement as an individual, many individuals become a strong force.

OOOOOhhhhhhh that was all a bit heavy!

 

[super mametchi]

Tesco Farm turtles to be sold in their Supermarkets in China.

The turtles are sold alive, once purchased the customer can have the live turtle butchered in the Tesco Supermarket. The customer can also choose to take the live turtle home to kill it in any way they wish.

The inhumane way turtles can be treated and killed in China is well documented, and there are a variety of media on the Internet to endorse this.

By allowing their customers to take home live turtles, Tesco could be allowing and endorsing the cruel torture of turtles, because they cannot control how the turtles are killed.

Tesco have turned their back on UK values of animal welfare to gain popularity and profit in China.

Organisations such as Care for the Wild International and the Tortoise Trust, have been in contact with Tesco trying to stop this activity.

Turtlesco has also offered to discuss this issue with Tesco, and has received no meaningful response that addresses the issues.

 

[Sweet Kandi]

First off every double post one makes, its one more post not needed.
And second. If you're beheaded...you're dead. The turtle does not feel pain after that point. That's as humane as you're gonna get. Anything further will not be making the turtle suffer. Now please settle down and think logically for a second about what I just said.

They obviously value the turtle. Sounds like they use it's entire body to sustain themselves and their culture. A lot of different cultures do this to celebrate the turtle's life and how it will help their own.

I have to agree with you here.

Those videos give me an odd PETA vibe.. It reminds me a lot of the 'KFC beats its' chickens' lie.

Turtle meat is normal for China. Just as chicken is normal in many different places. They slaughter chickens in a similar way as the turtles. By chopping it's head off.

No type of slaughter is a good thing, but if it's for food, why does it really matter? People throughout different cultures eat different things. It's how life works. There's no reason to get huffy over it.

 

[super mametchi]

Please listen you need to look carefully i said more than that maybe you dont understand please stop being like this its like cannibalism the thing this topics about!

 

[TigerLily013]

[SIZE=21pt]they dont just chop the head off nobody is listening then do it inhumanly read the topic your not listening[/SIZE] ^_^

The only thing I'm hearing out of you is a temper tantrum and the fact you're not listening to simple realizations and facts. Both SK and myself and various others made their points, and if you want to stick your fingers in your ears and sing really loud go ahead, but don't do it here. It makes it look like you're 5