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After watching a video, I now realized how bad animal testing is. I think it should be illegal, and here's why:

Animal Testing is animal abuse right? Well animal abuse is against the law. Dog fightting is animal abuse. People who fight dogs go to jail. But animal testing is also animal abuse. Why aren't the people who do animal testing going to jail? It IS animal abuse, and animal abuse IS against the law. So why shouldn't animal testing be against the law?

Here's a video of some retarded people putting a cat on LSD~ Cat on LSD

The first time I saw it I cried. I am a HUGE cat lover and I hate when people abuse cats.

C~M

 
I am TOTALLY against animal testing.. and yes, i do beleive that animal testing is animal abuse. I agree with you.

I think they don't put it against the law because they don't have anything else to test the stuff on.. i don't know

 
I am against animal abuse and testing. I really don't mind if they test things on rats, but only if it's like a break through cancer medicine that they truely beleive is going to work but the FDA is making them test to be sure. And only rats. Not just, "Oh, let's see what this does to a cat!" kinda crap.

I'm sorry, but what's LSD? That's why the movie wasn't so touching I didn't know quite wasn't going on but it still looked bad.

Cinderpelt♥

 
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I am against animal abuse and testing. I really don't mind if they test things on rats, but only if it's like a break through cancer medicine that they truely beleive is going to work but the FDA is making them test to be sure. And only rats. Not just, "Oh, let's see what this does to a cat!" kinda crap.
I'm sorry, but what's LSD? That's why the movie wasn't so touching I didn't know quite wasn't going on but it still looked bad.

Cinderpelt♥
LSD is a drug that alters your mind. Just like that cat. It was on LSD and it's mind was being altered. Plus you could see some brownish redish stuff came out of it's butt while it was freaking out.

C~M

 
They should only test on rats and mice. I mean, I don't care if they test on those animals. Just not cats, dogs, primates, cows, horses, and more. I don't know why they test of them anyways. I mean, their body systems are NOT the same as ours. They should test on cereal killers and murders (since they're going to die in death row anyways). Because those are people and their body systems are the same as any other human's.

C~M

 
Animal testing is fine when it's for important stuff like medicine research but experamental research like that is just wrong. Who CARES what a cat does when it's on LSD? Really.... One last thing I have to say: I'm not saying this to anyone in particular, but I really do dislike the whole "It's okay if they do it on rats and mice" thing. Yes, it's okay if it's important medicine research once again, but no if it's just experimental. Just because you might think a rat or mouse is ugly or gross, they are still animals and it is still cruel to abuse them. Rats are actually very intelligent animals that can be taught to do tricks like dogs, and they come when you call them, etc. Animal testing for medicine stuff is okay, but no, that video for example, was in my opinion, animal cruelty.

 
Why do they test on animals so different from humans? I don't think you can effectively test human shapmoo on a rabbit. And it's jsut down right cruel.

 
I'm picky about animal testing.

I think if they're testing a new medicine on an animal that's too dangerous for a human, it's okay.

For cosmetics, not so much.

 
I think medical research is miles away from animal abuse. I think animal testing is okay, as long as it's for something that people would literally die without. Or even become very ill. I mean, I wouldn't want a few thousand people to die for a dozen mice.

Cosmetic purposes or for 'fun' is just wrong. I think you can test both of those things perfectly well on people.

Do I hope that in the near future, animal testing isn't necessary? Of course. I hope that soon, some bright minded fellow will figure out a way to test medicine or treatments without putting anyone's lives at risk.

 
OMG my friends mom thinks animal testing doesnt realy matter!!!!!! she says that if we did it on people it would not be beter than saveing useless dogs!!!!!!!! OMG i about cried after i heard that!!!!!!!!! :) :wacko: :wacko: :( :( :(

 
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OMG my friends mom thinks animal testing doesnt realy matter!!!!!! she says that if we did it on people it would not be beter than saveing useless dogs!!!!!!!! OMG i about cried after i heard that!!!!!!!!! :wacko: :wacko: :( :( :( :(
OMG that is soo mean. I love dogs, as well as the kitty cats! Dogs aren't useless! Dogs are smart enough to help blind people! Dogs are smart enough to sniff out fires. Dogs are smart enough to sniff out drugs and stuff. Do dogs sound useless to you? I don't think so :)

C~M

 
what is the piont off animal testing it is most likley goinna have a diffrent efect on us well im not using anthing animal test even on rats and mice wa=hats wrong with threr great pets

 
I think medical research is miles away from animal abuse. I think animal testing is okay, as long as it's for something that people would literally die without. Or even become very ill. I mean, I wouldn't want a few thousand people to die for a dozen mice.
Cosmetic purposes or for 'fun' is just wrong. I think you can test both of those things perfectly well on people.

Do I hope that in the near future, animal testing isn't necessary? Of course. I hope that soon, some bright minded fellow will figure out a way to test medicine or treatments without putting anyone's lives at risk.
I am very much in agreement.

If you cut all testing for medicinial purposes than you are cutting peoples lives.

I'm sure someone will mention 'Why don't they test it on humans!11! DuH11!', my reply is ok fine, you colunteer your mom or dad, a sister or brother, a friend or a neighbor- YOU. Before making that statement think of volunteering your best friend or family member who you LOVE.

Why do we test on animals? We have things in common- skin, livers, eyes, ect. If it hurts the rat's stomach then there's a good chance of damaging peoples' stomachs too.

 
My mother works as the president of a medical company. It's new, the product hasn't been FDA approved yet, and so she knows quite a bit about animal testing. More then any of you, at the moment. I asked her to tell me a brief overview about animal testing for my reply here.

Most of you don't seem to understand a lot of things about animal testing. I got this feeling before I asked for more first-hand information about the subject- people just don't know what they're saying when they talk about these things.

My mom accurately guessed that at least one of you would say "well, rats don't matter." If you're really all for animal rights, you shouldn't care about the difference between rats or dogs. The thing is, usually people START with rats, but by no means do they stay there. Usually they move on to rabbits, then they might go to dogs or cats (my mother recently signed a contract with a doctor at a university to do testing with their product on cats) and then they move on to pigs. Pigs are quite similar to humans in their body structure, and can be the same size or larger.

All of the animals used for animal testing are farmed and raised specifically for that purpose. They don't go out and grab your pets or go into the wild and grab strays or anything of the sort. The same is done with food you eat. If you think you're a vegetarian for animal rights purposes, I sure hope that you don't eat animal products or eat jelly candy (made with cow acids, I believe) or own leather anything ethier- People seem to have these delusions that just because they don't eat it, it's better for the animals. Not so.

There is something incredibly important- Dosing. How strong can the drug be without killing the subject? How weak can it be before it is useless? What is the perfect balance where there are the fewest side effects and it still works well? You see, it wouldn't be right to play guess and check with people. It's guess and check before people even know if the drug is more helpful then harmful. The dosing is calculated, however, calculations only get you so far.

Ultimately, drugs are tested on people, too. People who have the disease where the current drugs avalible are not working for them. You start on a small scale and go up. After that, the FDA gets you approved and the drug is on the market. Even then, people are still keeping track of symptoms and watching so that doctors can be well informed if the product is right for a patient (in clinical trials, other then the main disease, the subjects should be healthy. It's hard to only have completley healthy patients other then said disease in the marketing world.)

As for criminals, it's rather unlikely that you will find a person suffering from a disease you need to test on death row. Then, multiple people, then more and more. Why is it okay to test on these people? Is it okay to test on people with mental retardation because they won't care if they die? No, it isn't.

Also, as for human testing, you would have to inject healthy people with the disease. Also, some are guarenteed to die as you need to push the limits of the drug in dosage testing. You CANNOT test on people who are not healthy and going to die anyway- you NEED healthy people. Normal people. And if they're starving kids in Africa you won't miss anyway, also not healthy. You can subject yourself to getting injected with AIDS for a cure that might not work if you want, I'm not going to.

With cosmetics, nail polish, and things that you say "no, it's not okay" to, think twice. A lot more things then you think are tested on animals. How else do we know that toothpaste shouldn't be swallowed?

LASTLY, the FDA has a TON of rules that all labs need to follow to ensure that the suffering of animals is minimal. What? Do you honestly think that there are no rules?

 
They should only test on rats and mice. I mean, I don't care if they test on those animals. Just not cats, dogs, primates, cows, horses, and more. I don't know why they test of them anyways. I mean, their body systems are NOT the same as ours. They should test on cereal killers and murders (since they're going to die in death row anyways). Because those are people and their body systems are the same as any other human's.
C~M
Testing on rats and mice is animal cruelty too. If your against animal cruelty it means against ALL animal cruelty not just picking and choosing who dies.

I don't think they should test them on anyone because it's cruel, even to people who have made mistakes - murderers etc etc have mental problems that's why they think like they do.

Although the world has come on alot since cave people I think it was better how they only killed animals to SURVIVE not for selfishness such as buying animal fur which isn't needed as we have FAKE fur/warm clothing and there is just no need.

 
I hate testing on any animal, animals really suffer just for the latest Strawberry Shampoo and Conditioner. They should test medicine they REALLY think is going to work on patients like pyonchit said, and don't we humans have enough medicine and shampoo and stuff anyway?? Animals have rights and we should respect them :unsure: :ph34r: :lol:

 
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Well, as Pyonchit said, if you don't test shampoo or toothpaste or anything like that then there could be something seriously wrong with them that CAN harm people. Say there's x-ingrediant in DinoDinoShampoo and if used could kill you- that IS something to be tested for.

Thanks for that info Pyonchit- it was very informative.

 
[SIZE=8pt] :lol: :huh: :lol: :lol: I totally agree with upk619 and blackiponki (on the youtube replies) they should test it on serial killers and maniacs and themselves instead of harming a cat! or any animal! :D :( :( [/SIZE]

pyonchit... I must say... no offense, but I think to test on serial killers because they've killed people. Mentally retarded people can't help the way they are. my mom works with them, and they are all very nice. Serial killers are not nice. (that's why we have them locked up) yes they are people too, but c'mon, they murder! you've never seen a cat murder for pleasure, have you? :( :( :(

 
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