Is abortion wrong?

[*Summer*]

I didn't make this topic a poll because It's really your own opinion that people can't really say...

So simple question: Is abortion wrong?

For those who don't know, Abortion is if your pregnant and you don't want the baby, you terminate it before It's born. Basically murder.

I don't agree with it but It's better than just neglecting and abusing a child when and if it is born.

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Don't forget that this forum is for mature and sensible discussions. The site rules must be followed - no excuses, no exceptions!

TamaMum

 

[TamaMum]

Sadly, your question is not a "simple" one at all

It raises a lot of questions - difficult to answer.

What is the accepted definition of Murder? and indeed the accepted definition of Abortion?

Take a look at the Oxford English Dictionary (widely regarded as one of the most authoritative publications in the world on use of English):

Murder: the unlawful premeditated killing of one person by another

Abortion: 1. the deliberate termination of a human pregnancy. 2 the natural expulsion of a foetus from the womb before it is able to survive independently

This subject has been debated (heatedly, by Heads of Religion and Politicians as well as every day folk like you and me) for a long time and it is worth trying to find out all the facts and information about how and why abortion exists before you make your judgements

I don't believe we can call abortion "Murder", but it depends on whether you believe that an embryo (very early stage of pregnancy) is a person.

When does an unborn child become a person? When it has developed into a foetus? (more advanced stage of pregnancy). How can we decide if an unborn child is aware of what is happening? How can we decide if an embryo or foetus is a person?

I am not saying we shouldn't try to make a judgement - I am just saying that there are a lot of different opinions which unfortunately are unlikely to every agree.

Is it right to deliberately terminate a human pregnancy? Sometimes, yes.

I believe that people should have the right to choose to have an abortion - just as I believe that people should have the right to choose to live or die - under certain circumstances. Every decision/situation is slightly different and it is impossible to simply say that abortion is wrong.

Would you want to bring a child into the world that you knew already had an inoperable medical condition that would make it's quality of life unbearable? (And cause grief and suffering for those who love it?)

Would you make a girl who was attacked and raped by a stranger keep the baby if she didn't want it (and call her a Murderer)?

That's just two situations - but there are plenty more.

The question "Is Abortion Wrong?" is not a simple one at all

I guess my own personal opinion is that it is not wrong in many circumstances, but it is wrong to try to take away the right of anyone to choose for themselves.

 

[RachelGotchi]

I think people should be allowed to have an abortion. Would I ever get one? Probably not. Should other people be allowed to? I believe so.

I really don't consider it 'murder' - The fetus doesn't have many thoughts that are human like; most of them are very primative and survival related (I think anyway).

A woman should be allowed to have the choice. Abstinence isn't always possible (in cases of rape or 'overwhelming passion')and even safer sex practices can still fail. I think a woman should be allowed to be intimate with her partner and not have to have a kid if infact one comes around after protected sex.

However, if a woman becomes impregnated and she did not take any caution whatsoever during intercourse then I think the baby should be born and raised (unless of course she is financially unfit, the baby is medically ill, or she would become an abusive parent).

It's a stressed topic that really can't be answered with a plain 'yes' or 'no'; There are certain cases where abortion should be allowed and disallowed.

(I think of it this way - It's the woman's body, she gets to do whatnot to it, even if it's another body inside her)

 

[Richard8777]

I think its wrong,and should be out lawed.

When does an unborn child become a person? When it has developed into a foetus? (more advanced stage of pregnancy). How can we decide if an unborn child is aware of what is happening? How can we decide if an embryo or foetus is a person?

You are correct, but even so,what if the unborn child doesn't know what was happening. It might not even think. Who cares? If it would've not been aborted,it'd grow up,then it would be able to think,feel. I believe everyone has a right to live there full life,until a natural(or like a car crash or sumthing) death occurs. If you get a baby aborted,you're denying it's right to live//

 

[baybee-x]

Well I can't say it's wrong or not because everyone is different. Personally I would never get an abortion, but that's how I feel about it.

But some people see it as they wouldn't be able to give the child what it needs so they think it would be better to terminate it other than raise it with a poor life.

Other people see it as a life and would never want to terminate a pregnancy. Alot of teenagers who have abortions usually get pregnant because they didn't use protection - If they don't want to get pregnant either don't have sex or use protection [even though it's not 100% effective] but then again everyone makes mistakes.

None of my friends have had abortions and alot of them are pregnant. One of my friends accidently got pregnant and had a miscarriage and she was so upset by it her and her boyfriend decided to have another, she's 4 days overdue now.

My other friends cousin had to have an abortion because the pregnancy was ectopic and it would kill her and the baby if she continued with the pregnancy. So if you are pregnant you really shouldn't keep it to yourself because what happens if your unlucky and you & the baby are in danger?

If someone had an abortion I wouldn't judge them - it's their body and if they don't want a baby they shouldn't be forced into keeping it. Stopping people being able to have abortions would lead to people trying to terminate it themselves and that's really dangerous.

 

[tamaw/pants]

I think abortion is wrong because everyone should have the right to life fetus or not.

I really don't understand this whole thing with the fetus not being an baby stuff. I mean, if it's there, it will grow into a baby anyways right? So why isn't it considered a living thing.

 

[Richard8777]

I think abortion is wrong because everyone should have the right to life fetus or not.
I really don't understand this whole thing with the fetus not being an baby stuff. I mean, if it's there, it will grow into a baby anyways right? So why isn't it considered a living thing.

Exactly my point//

 

[TamaMum]

I think abortion is wrong because everyone should have the right to life fetus or not.
I really don't understand this whole thing with the fetus not being an baby stuff. I mean, if it's there, it will grow into a baby anyways right? So why isn't it considered a living thing.

I really do understand that a foetus it is a living thing. I don't think it is a "person", so I believe it is incorrect to use the term "murder", but I agree that it is taking a life

However, if you think abortion is wrong because a foetus has the right to life have you considered if your opinion would change faced with an ectopic pregnancy (as baybee-x described)?

What decision about abortion would we make if the pregnancy was confirmed as ectopic and that the foetus would continue to grow in the fallopian tube instead of the womb and, in time kill the mother and itself when the tube ruptured? ^_^

Would you allow the pregnancy to continue knowing that both mother and baby would die before full term?

Would you approve of an abortion in order to give that mother the right to life and maybe a second chance to have another try at motherhood?

Difficult questions to answer, I know. If you believe that in a circumstance like the ectopic pregnancy just described you would support an abortion, then I suggest that you have to acknowledge that not all abortion is wrong.

I do understand that some folk believe that there are absolutely no circumstances where an abortion is right - sometimes they are based on religion - or a religious belief that prevents them (for example) from having a blood transfusion.

If that is a religious belief, then I respect it. I am sad that it happens, but I respect a persons right make that choice.

I don't support circumstances where abortion is used as a convenient form of birth control for an unwanted pregnancy - but I would say that any mittigating circumstances should always be considered.

 

[tamaw/pants]

I get what you're saying. On those other circumstances, I really don't know where to stand [like the mother and the baby would die].

 

[fluffums]

I don't feel abortion is wrong. I would rather not have been born than have been in the foster care system my entire childhood, and not having a nice life. I would rather be dead than not have a nice life. Having a child shouldn't ruin a mother's life either. I don't feel that even if a 12 year old was stupid enough to have sex, she should have to have a child. She should just get in a ton of trouble, and not be allowed to leave the house without an escort until she's eighteen.

Although I do believe that you should wait until marriage to have sex, so unless there is something wrong with the pregnancy (if you're married) there really should be no reason to have an abortion. I do have something against people who have gotten more than one abortion. They should have learned after that.

 

[crazyy*tama]

Women can choose do to abortion if they want to, or not. I don't think it should be against the law.

 

[~»tamagirl101«~]

I think abortion is horibbly wrong and completly unjust. Everyone should have a chance to live. No matter how old the unborn baby is, it's still a living person. It's murder and should be against the law. People go to jail for murder, so why isn't abortion counted, seeing as you are doing the exact same thing? Instead of getting an aborton, people should just give the baby up for adoption.

 

[crazyy*tama]

Instead of getting an aborton, people should just give the baby up for adoption.

I'd rather not be born than live with a foster care system.

 

[Courtnee~Malakian]

I think it is wrong because you're killing somebody. You're taking their life away amnd they have no say in it. I think the baby should be born and if the parents don't want it, they should give it up for adoption, that way it'll live a life with parents.

C~M

 

[Digi450]

i really hate abortion and think its wrong but it can be right for certain reasons. like when someone is to young to give birth.

 

[Courtnee~Malakian]

i really hate abortion and think its wrong but it can be right for certain reasons. like when someone is to young to give birth.

Well one of my boyfriend's ex girlfriends is 13 and she just had a baby. But still, they can do a seesection (sp?) to get the baby out instead of labor.

C~M

 

[River.]

Yeah, i think PART of it is.

BUT: What if you were raped? i wouldn't keep a rapists baby, so i would have to have an abortion.

But if you were with your partner and had an abortion- then sometimes i think, "whats the point in it?"

So yeah. :/

 

[tamaw/pants]

Rape is horrible, and the memories are horrible, but why take it out on the child? It wasn't your fault, but nor what is the baby's. The baby is a different person than the one who had raped the women.

And people say they'd rather not be born into foster care, sure, you say that now and I respect that, but just because there's different circumstances doesn't make it a trade-off for living your life.

 

[baybee-x]

Rape is horrible, and the memories are horrible, but why take it out on the child? It wasn't your fault, but nor what is the baby's. The baby is a different person than the one who had raped the women.
And people say they'd rather not be born into foster care, sure, you say that now and I respect that, but just because there's different circumstances doesn't make it a trade-off for living your life.

I know it wasn't the babies fault that the woman got raped but her being pregnant etc is just a constant reminder what happened. Maybe the woman never wants children, or something similar. Even though they could put the baby up for adoption some women don't want to experience being pregnant.

 

[pyonchit]

I know that adopted children can be happy children, if the children are told about it the right way, like when they're young. I myself wouldn't like to be born an unwanted child, however that doesn't mean all adopted children are miserable.

I think it's the woman's choice if she wants to get an abortion. I shouldn't be telling them what to do with their lives.

Planned parenthoods work better then unplanned ones.